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Old November 3rd, 2009, 11:46 AM   #11
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so youre saying a 110 white fangz is weaker than a 105 reverse equinox? 30 dex lower and 5 atk better to use the fangz...seems like itll do more dmg to me ;)
That White Fangz required a truckload of luck and a truckload of 30%s. A White Fangz is still 12 attack behind in terms of base attack to an Equinox. With item leveling it's 15-18 attack behind. Just because you got lucky scrolling/buying it doesn't mean everyone else can get it too. The average at best for scrolling a White Fangz is around 90. Anything higher than that is really good luck.

*If on the very off-chance you're going to bash me for using an Equinox because it requires so much DEX so my damage is weaker, nice try. I'm still at 20 base DEX.
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Old November 3rd, 2009, 1:27 PM   #12
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havent seen many nicely leveled equinoxes around in demethos. and the current ones in use are crap in my opinion. anyways, i was just saying (as the person above me was as well) that an reverse equinox isnt always the best weapon

oh, and to those saying which is easier to make...making an equinox costs a lot as well (buying time pieces)...so its not exactly the "cheapest" way. the cheapest way would to buy an average white fangz or king cent and go normal dex (dex = lvl) or slightly low dex...
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Old November 3rd, 2009, 1:48 PM   #13
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havent seen many nicely leveled equinoxes around in demethos. and the current ones in use are crap in my opinion. anyways, i was just saying (as the person above me was as well) that an reverse equinox isnt always the best weapon

oh, and to those saying which is easier to make...making an equinox costs a lot as well (buying time pieces)...so its not exactly the "cheapest" way. the cheapest way would to buy an average white fangz or king cent and go normal dex (dex = lvl) or slightly low dex...
A 110 White Fangz requires, assuming the average base of 70, EIGHT 30%s to pass. Even if you got lucky and it was a 78 (assuming max attack using Item Maker) it STILL needs at least 6 30%s and a 60% to get it to 110. But on the other hand you could have white scrolled it too, which makes your argument harder to support because very few can afford that kind of money.

Yes a Reverse weapon doesn't mean it's better than weapons that were blessed with 30%s, but I would rather have a more guaranteed way to get over 100 attack on a Knuckle than having to play the lotto with my Knuckles and watch countless boom before me. The best 30%ed knuckle I saw on Bellocan is a 101/102 King Cent. That just matches my 16 STR/ 5 DEX/101 Reverse Equinox. Now imagine if I were to White Scroll an 86 attack or higher Equinox.... no contest right there.

Also, been at Skeles much? You don't have to buy the Time Pieces. Farm em. I never bought a single Piece of Time for my Equinox.
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Old November 3rd, 2009, 3:41 PM   #14
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so youre saying a 110 white fangz is weaker than a 105 reverse equinox? 30 dex lower and 5 atk better to use the fangz...seems like itll do more dmg to me ;)

if you have money to scroll 110 attack white fangs in first place u can definitely afford to make 120 attack reverse equinox
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Old November 3rd, 2009, 3:45 PM   #15
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I think he's trying to say that 'reverse' weapons are easier to forge/scroll and are potentially more stronger than other weapons...Reverse weapons are commonly stronger than the others because of this...

It was more easier for me making a 113 Atk equinox over the 103 atk Dragon Slash I use to have...
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Everybody who says that reverse =/= attack for a bucc has their head on backwards.
The extra 10 dex for the extra 10 attack is DEFINITELY worth it. And since it can level, the difference between a level 100 knuckle and 110 knuckle is less than the difference between the 110 and 120. The Equinox is the obvious best choice.

At the comment about it not being the CHEAP way, maybe you need to rethink what it is I said originally.

And as wtfomgbbq said, his base is still 20. That's why I said, originally, that it depends on the TS's goals. Equinox guarantees you more attack than any other knuckle, assuming all the same scrolls work, and the lower your dex is, the more expensive, but the better.
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Old November 3rd, 2009, 3:54 PM   #16
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2 simple facts.
  • Whatever has more attack is best.
  • It is easier to get higher attack on an Equinox

Stop geekin out guys
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Old November 3rd, 2009, 4:05 PM   #17
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Old November 3rd, 2009, 5:42 PM   #18
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havent seen many nicely leveled equinoxes around in demethos. and the current ones in use are crap in my opinion. anyways, i was just saying (as the person above me was as well) that an reverse equinox isnt always the best weapon

oh, and to those saying which is easier to make...making an equinox costs a lot as well (buying time pieces)...so its not exactly the "cheapest" way. the cheapest way would to buy an average white fangz or king cent and go normal dex (dex = lvl) or slightly low dex...
So get out of skeles and go kill at oblivion 4. I got 17 PoTs over the weekend just by doing 4x.

This argument is way too funny. A CLEAN equinox is cheap as balls to make. Just put a goddamn adv diamond and a stimulator on it and it comes out better or slightly worse than most fangz are scrolled. If you can scroll a 105+ fangz, whoopdefuckingdo, use it. But you can't deny the fact that equinoxes always has better potential, always will be easy to get a higher attack, and will be cheaper getting there than a fangz.

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Old November 3rd, 2009, 6:22 PM   #19
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So get out of skeles and go kill at oblivion 4. I got 17 PoTs over the weekend just by doing 4x.

This argument is way too funny. A CLEAN equinox is cheap as balls to make. Just put a goddamn adv diamond and a stimulator on it and it comes out better or slightly worse than most fangz are scrolled. If you can scroll a 105+ fangz, whoopdefuckingdo, use it. But you can't deny the fact that equinoxes always has better potential, always will be easy to get a higher attack, and will be cheaper getting there than a fangz.
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Old November 3rd, 2009, 6:57 PM   #20
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Actually it's relatively harder to get a high atk equinox (lets say 110atk) compared to a king cent or dragon slash claw as you cannot input scrolled-equipped equinoxes in the market like you can with the other knuckles. It is not wise to use a reverse as they are untradeable once equipped therefore someday when you get a better knuckle whether it be soon or in the distant future, you in a sense "throw away" that reverse equinox thus throwing away 400m+
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