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Old January 27th, 2008, 6:12 PM   #11
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Ice Demon and Chain Lightning are both 84 casts/minute. I tested this with a metronome.
in msea, chain lightning is 92/min. they made it slower in gMS?
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Old January 27th, 2008, 6:36 PM   #12
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Ice Demon and Chain Lightning are both 84 casts/minute. I tested this with a metronome.
im guessing thats with +2 booster speed? and are 74 w/out booster like calw?

also means fire demon same speed?

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[F/P]
Explosion(+)
(EW) 41
(pyogo) 39
(kage) 35
Fire-Arrow(+) 84
Fire-Arrow(-) 74
F/P Composition(+) 74
F/P Composition(-) 64

(-) = no booster
(+) = booster
explosion w/out booster?
poison brace?
poison myst?

and how should i put explosion in the calc, with what weapon? because im not sure how to incorporate all of them...

i would update the calc, but i g2g for now, i have updated it but not uploaded it...yet

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Old January 27th, 2008, 7:52 PM   #13
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Sorry thats what i meant, all skills are effected by booster and only explosion is affected by weapon attack speed.

I am just trying to figure out what formula to use from that thread nekoncat, to give me a % chance to hit the monster, so many not sure which 1 i should use?
If you want the % chance, use the last one (which uses all of them).
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Old January 27th, 2008, 8:04 PM   #14
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explosion w/out booster?
poison brace?
poison myst?
i didn't test for explosion without booster, and its impossible to calculate mist and brace because the DPS depends on how many monsters are poisoned
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Old January 27th, 2008, 9:20 PM   #15
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well, i wanna know for poison brace at least because it has an innitial basic attack to hit the monster
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Old January 27th, 2008, 9:41 PM   #16
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well, i wanna know for poison brace at least because it has an innitial basic attack to hit the monster
i don't think anyone actually uses it for the initial hit. i tested all the skills before i had quit my f/p, so it might be a while before i can check since ill need to transfer a weapon to it

i think its 84 booster / 74 without, just like all the other 2nd job skills but i'm not sure
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Old January 27th, 2008, 9:59 PM   #17
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i don't think anyone actually uses it for the initial hit. i tested all the skills before i had quit my f/p, so it might be a while before i can check since ill need to transfer a weapon to it

i think its 84 booster / 74 without, just like all the other 2nd job skills but i'm not sure
Well, i know no-one really does, but when you are versing monsters 1-2 hit if you are pure poison it would help...

And my calc is starting to look very compliacted, because i added dmg per min and sec for both mob and single target...Would you prefer dmg per min or dmg per sec?

And what weapon should i use for the casting speed for explosion, i know its not REALLY important as most f/p just use it as a finisher...

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If you want the % chance, use the last one (which uses all of them).
thanks, but what is trunc and round?

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Old January 27th, 2008, 10:08 PM   #18
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in msea, chain lightning is 92/min. they made it slower in gMS?
Yeah why is it that mSEA has it at 92/min? Or does weapon speed somehow affect CL?

I need to get an evil wing and try it. But right now with magicodar + level 11 booster, it seems to be at about 85/86 per min.

Ice demon seems about same speed as cold beam.

I want 92/min please
I want to go solo crow....
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Would the level difference, monster level - char level or the opposite way around?

Also, what do people prefer damage per minute or damage per second?
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thanks, but what is trunc and round?
Truncation and 0.5 rounding.

Here are examples:
round(1.1)=1
round(1.4)=1
round(1.5)=2
round(1.9)=2
round(2.0)=2

trunc(1.1)=1
trunc(1.4)=1
trunc(1.5)=1
trunc(1.9)=1
trunc(2.0)=2

If you want to see the correct usage of these things in Excel, check out Microsoft's website about ROUND and TRUNC


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Would the level difference, monster level - char level or the opposite way around?
Monster minus character, and when it becomes less than or equal to 0, it stops affecting accuracy.

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